FRANK: Bill. You're 47 years old. You can't put out a "zine".
BILL: Yes, I can, Frank.

BILL: This is for those middle-aged guys out there, like myself, who never gave up their punk fire. They need a voice, Frank. And I'm it.

FRANK: You own a $20 million bookbinding company, Bill.
BILL: And I'm still raw!

FRANK: Can you at least put it on the glossy paper?
BILL: Ha! Glossy paper would be selling out. Bill Dever doesn't sell out.

#5. Still raw.

January 11, 2005 Transcript

Still raw.